Pack EV calculator

Obsidian Flames — pack EV

On average, a Obsidian Flames pack returns €1.82 (typical pack price ~€4.49).

EV per pack
€1.82
Pack price (MSRP)
€4.49
Return on MSRP
41%
EV per box (36 packs)
€65.50

Per-rarity breakdown

Per-pack probability × average price (Cardmarket EUR) = EV share. Rows sum exactly to the headline.

Rarity Per pack Cards
Illustration Rare ≈ 1 in 13 packs 12 €8.35 €0.64 35%
Common ×5 92 €0.04 €0.22 12%
Hyper Rare ≈ 1 in 54 packs 3 €10.82 €0.20 11%
Uncommon ×3.8 74 €0.05 €0.18 10%
Special Illustration Rare ≈ 1 in 32 packs 6 €5.68 €0.18 10%
Rare ≈ 1 in 1 packs 10 €0.19 €0.16 9%
Double Rare ≈ 1 in 7 packs 21 €1.12 €0.16 9%
Ultra Rare ≈ 1 in 15 packs 12 €1.26 €0.08 5%
Total per pack €1.82

Top hits of the set

  1. Charizard ex

    Charizard ex

    #223 · Special Illustration Rare

    €83.53

  2. Charizard ex

    Charizard ex

    #228 · Hyper Rare

    €27.95

  3. Ninetales

    Ninetales

    #199 · Illustration Rare

    €25.73

  4. Cleffa

    Cleffa

    #202 · Illustration Rare

    €18.23

  5. Pidgeot ex

    Pidgeot ex

    #225 · Special Illustration Rare

    €14.99

  6. Charizard ex

    Charizard ex

    #215 · Ultra Rare

    €14.21

  7. Gloom

    Gloom

    #198 · Illustration Rare

    €12.71

  8. Pidgey

    Pidgey

    #207 · Illustration Rare

    €8.67

Methodology and sources

Formula: EV_pack = Σ (per-pack probability of each rarity × average EUR price of that rarity's cards in the set). The breakdown above lists exactly those terms.

Prices: latest Cardmarket EUR quote per card (230 of 230 cards priced). Within each rarity we use the plain mean of every card — chase cards included. A price is only dropped when it looks like a data error: more than 10× the rarity's median AND more than 3× the next-highest price. Bulk cards are NOT excluded — they are part of the real expectation.

Pull rates: community estimates (documented mass pack openings), never official — The Pokémon Company does not publish pull rates. Within a tier (e.g. Galarian Gallery) we assume uniform probability per card. Reverse holos are valued at the regular card's price. Rows marked * use the era baseline rate because nobody has measured that set.

EV is a long-run average: any single pack will usually return much less (the norm) or occasionally much more (the hit). This is not investment advice.

Community estimates, not official — The Pokémon Company never publishes pull rates. Baseline measured on SV base (8,000+ packs); per-set drift exists (2024 sets Twilight Masquerade→Surging Sparks had Special Illustration Rare closer to 1 in 85-90 packs). ACE SPEC slot applies only from Temporal Forces (sv5) onward; the resolver drops it automatically for sets without ACE SPEC cards. Reverse-holo cards are valued at the regular card's price (reverse variants are not priced separately in our data).

Pull-rate sources

FAQ

Frequently asked questions

Is it worth opening Obsidian Flames packs?
On average a pack returns €1.82, 41% of its MSRP (€4.49). As with almost every set, opening packs loses value versus buying singles — you pay for the thrill of the rip.
How is the expected value (EV) of a pack calculated?
We multiply each rarity's per-pack probability by the average EUR price (Cardmarket) of that rarity's cards in the set, then sum: EV = Σ P(rarity) × avg price(rarity). A price is only excluded when it looks like a data error (over 10× the rarity's median and 3× the next-highest price); legitimate chase cards count.
Are these pull rates official?
No. The Pokémon Company never publishes pull rates. We use community estimates from documented mass openings (TCGplayer Authentication Center, pull-rate aggregators) and cite every source with its date.
What is a Obsidian Flames box worth on average?
With 36 packs, the expected contents are worth €65.50. Compare against the real sealed price before ripping.

Data from pokemontcg.io · Prices from Cardmarket.